Thanks aussiedogger69, was you joking about having them two crossed can you see trouble with that? yeah that it just need to get out with the boys as much as i can. i know where the pigs are on the land i shoot. there is only me on there and do well with them, that why i went for a leggy dog and im looking forward to run a dog on the open ground. Yeah looking at doing some stock and roo proofing with him. same with my gun dog back at home