Thanks stevo, yea i looked through nothing really around fark hard to find
all the breed of mine had died pretty much from the breeder i got him off luggin cows fights ect, they are bent but good dogs brought up correct.
mine was luggin at 6 months old finding around a year stedaly getting better n better no problems with cows had cows a home, he was 18 months n died in the vets with something stuck in his guts farking unbelivable haha, got a decent bull arob that used to lug flat, still finds them great but he has gotten to smart n bails biger pigs n where i hunt its no good because they dont pull up,need another bully grey